When They Tell You The Science Is In, It Never Is

[POWERZONE]

Ah Mello.
I see the French bureaucrats have all got numberplates there are odd numbered.
I see the fiendish plan they have.
Every now and then they get two days in a row, the last of the month 31 and then the first of the next month very clever.

 
 
What if... you don't have numbers?
 

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[Aloysius]

I really like France and have visited several times often staying well away from Paris - (Alps)

 

Having said that Paris is the most visited city in the world and with very good reason.

 

The folks are fine.

 

When it comes to politics their modus operandi is far more self serving and devious than even the Poms.

 

Their technology is fine - a great deal of western aluminium is smelted on Pechiney designed smelters.

[Aloysius]

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/call-f...mnp51.html

 


"Call for Pyne's resignation over $4 million funding to climate contrarian"
 

 

http://www.environment.gov.au/climate-ch...on-program

<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">"The Australian Government’s up to $126 million Climate Change Adaptation Program is helping Australians to better understand and manage risks linked to the carbon pollution which continues to increase in our atmosphere and to take advantage of potential opportunities.

<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Through the Climate Change Adaptation Program, the Australian Government has funded a number of projects and assessments to:

• improve our knowledge of the impacts of climate change
  
• strengthen the capacity of decision-makers to respond
  
• address major areas of national vulnerability."
  

<p style="margin:0px;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;">http://www.environment.gov.au/climate-ch...fund/about

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<p class="" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1.3em;color:rgb(51,51,51);">"The Emissions Reduction Fund will support Australian businesses and households to take practical, direct action to reduce emissions and improve the environment.

<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">The objective of the Emissions Reduction Fund is to help achieve Australia’s 2020 emissions reduction target of five per cent below 2000 levels by 2020. The Government has provided $2.55 billion to establish the Emissions Reduction Fund, with further funding to be considered in future budgets."

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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">Heh Heh Billions of $$ of our money dedicated to climate change and the Science sceptics howl about $4m to a different point of view?

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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">The science will never be in if only one "accepted" view is promoted.

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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(0,0,0);">What are they afraid of?

[Aloysius]

Oh wowie Coldest temps in 8 years!!!!

 

 

Where is global warming when you need it?

[Aloysius]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/hea...7439206910

 


Little ice age to hit in 2030s, say university researchers

<p style="text-align:inherit;">Solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to produce conditions last seen during the “little ice age” that began in 1645, accord­ing to ­research claiming to have more accurately measured the sun’s 11-year “heartbeat”.


<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">Scientists at the University of Northumbria in northern England have claimed a new understanding of the sun’s solar cycle, which they say produces unprecedent­edly accurate predictions of irregularities in the solar cycle.

<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">The findings were presented to Britain’s National Astronomy Meeting, which is sponsored by the Royal Astronomical Society.

<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">Release of the research follows a report by the British Met Office last month which said the sun’s power was weakening at its fastest rate for 9300 years, doubling the odds of a return to “little ice age” conditions by mid-century.

<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">The Met Office said the chance of a repeat of conditions which last occurred between 1645 and 1715, when London’s Thames River regularly froze over, was now rated at between 15 and 20 per cent, up from 10 per cent in 2010.

 

<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">The weaker solar activity of that time is known as the Mauder Minimum and occurred in the middle of a period known as the ­little ice age."

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<p style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Times New Roman', sans-serif;font-size:19px;">Yep the science which was in is now not in, and new science is on the way in!!!

[Aloysius]

Science frequently proposes a new postulation and then goes out to test it 

 

CF Millikan speed of light investigation 

[Aloysius]

Oh wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Snow in Queensland for the first time in 8 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Where is global warming when you need it?

[Aloysius]

SOO + ice?

 

 

Life is GOOD

[Aloysius]

Uh Oh it's in NSW too!!!

 

 

 

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/...years.html

 

Sydney has coldest start to July in 44 years

[Aloysius]

 

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/07/18...-on-record

 

<div>An international report compiled by a US environment body claims 2014 was the warmest year ever recorded on Earth.

 
 

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Since we have only been recording global temperatures for less than 100 years and the world is just a little older than that the numbers are to say the least - unrepresentative of the earths temperature history.

 

Mere inspection of the geomorphology of the earth demonstrates successive waves of temperature variation - almost all before the arrival of humankind.

 

 

Interpretation of the data in the light of unrecorded climate change demonstrated by the rocks is the key here.

[JSmith]

<div>A prominent British Tory MP has launched a stinging attack on Prime Minister Tony Abbott's climate change policies, calling them "incomprehensible", "illogical" and a distortion of "what it means to be a Conservative".
Mr Abbott's dismissal of climate science ... speaks to a distorted vision of what it means to be a Conservative. 
 
Richard Benyon, Tory MP
Richard Benyon, a former environment minister under British leader David Cameron, says Mr Abbott's decision to become the first world leader to abolish a carbon price is "mystifying" and his attack on renewable energy targets "bewildering", especially for a "supposedly pro-business government".
 

 

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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/p...ihsio.html
 
What an embarrassing bunch we have running the show...
 
JSmith 

[Aloysius]

Heh - And we know that a pommie conservative pollie can be believed!!!!

 

That Mr Benyon has difficulty understanding is his issue - not ours!

[JSmith]

Heh - And we know that a pommie conservative pollie can be believed!!!!

 

That Mr Benyon has difficulty understanding is his issue - not ours!

 

I understand you have a differing opinion Aloy...

 

That said, why are you against renewable energy and cleaning up our environment regardless if it is responsible for global warming or not?

 

Can't you see Abbott's policy in this regard is simply backward?

 

Time to clean up the Earth, who could possibly be against that and still be considered rational. Now I know you are a rational man... so how about a change of heart on this one mate?

 

JSmith 

[Aloysius]

 

I understand you have a differing opinion Aloy...

 

That said, why are you against renewable energy and cleaning up our environment regardless if it is responsible for global warming or not?

 

Can't you see Abbott's policy in this regard is simply backward?

 

Time to clean up the Earth, who could possibly be against that and still be considered rational. Now I know you are a rational man... so how about a change of heart on this one mate?

 

JSmith 

 

 

I'm not against clean energy at all - I am against taxpayer money supporting established sources - I am fpor Abbotts idea of bulk Solar generation - this is Australia we have the natural conditions for this.

 

Only with bulk generation can we support our economy toward growth and jobs.

 

I am not against cleaning up the earth it's a question of stewardship - that said I am against those who want it all and they want it now regardless of the effect it will have on jobs and individual futures.

 

Baby and bathwater spring to mind.

 

Thank you for your compliment.

 

We can always argue but respect another POV.

[Aloysius]

Tony Abbott is a British immigrant

 

i reckon even that pommie conservative knows our flag better than Tony Abbott does

 

 

You are an immigrant aren't you Mello?

 

Not that there is anything wrong with that - a lot of us are!

[JSmith]

 

 

You are an immigrant aren't you Mello?

 

Not that there is anything wrong with that - a lot of us are!

 

Our entire nation are immigrants... apart from Aboriginal people.

 

JSmith 

[JSmith]

 

 

I'm not against clean energy at all - I am against taxpayer money supporting established sources - I am fpor Abbotts idea of bulk Solar generation - this is Australia we have the natural conditions for this.

 

Current solar panels are very carbon intensive to produce, partially negating any benefit for years. There are newer types of solar panels that generate 10 times more power than most current panels, however these have yet to make it into mass production.

 

Abbott doesn't even like wind power Aloy... he has put hundreds out of work in the wind industry.

 

Baseload power can be generated from renewables...

 

JSmith 

[JSmith]

IMHO the aborigines are real lucky they were overran buy the English.

 

I doubt there would be many, if any, Aboriginal people who would agree with you Peter...

 

JSmith 

[JSmith]

No doubt this is an illusion.

 

I implore you to do some further research.

 

JSmith 

[POWERZONE]

What they're saying is it took an unusually cool summer to bring the ice thickness back to where it was 40 years ago.

What are the odds of a cool summer in that region every year?