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21-04-2010, 02:26 PM
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I was just wondering if you think the Rudd Health Plan (that was agreed to now that Brumby has changed his mind) will help Rudd win the next election? To be honest I don't really have a clue what was agreed!!! Something about money money money? <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />
Quote:Kevin Rudd has used political bribery and brute force to wrest from the states a new Commonwealth power over hospitals. Sounding as if he were already electioneering, Rudd immediately wielded it as an ''historic agreement for better health and better hospitals for the working families of Australia''.
The agreement is incomplete - Western Australia has so far refused to sign up - but it gives Rudd a critical credential.
After the collapse of his campaign to introduce an emissions trading scheme, Rudd needed a major deal to be able to claim that he is a reforming prime minister. The hospitals agreement will form the basis for that claim, with Rudd describing it yesterday as a ''huge reform''.
[url="http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/confident-pm-sets-the-stage-for-election-20100420-srue.html?autostart=1"]http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/...tml?autostart=1[/url]
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21-04-2010, 02:55 PM
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[quote name='glen' post='26224' date='Apr 21 2010, 12:26 PM'] Quote:The agreement is incomplete - Western Australia has so far refused to sign up - but it gives Rudd a critical credential.
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Well they say he could not achieve anything with climate change so at least if does a health plan he has something to show for himself. Though this whole thing seems like an obama copycat to me.
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I just read this ...
[url="http://www.alp.org.au/news/historic-health-reform"]http://www.alp.org.au/news/historic-health-reform[/url]
...and still don't understand how the plan changes anything except that more money seems to be on the table. Hasn't it been the states screaming for more money for years anyway? So isn't this just a funding boost?
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Not sure ...i haven't been paying close attention and thought that national conformity was the end game with funding only being the pay-off for said conformity.
...been a little bored with politics lately ...other distractions loom.
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I don't think there's any real change - just shuffling money around.
Having said that I do support it for the sole reason of accountability - if I'm not happy about a relative in QLD getting poor health treatment I can now vote against it in a Federal election - prior to that it was limited to the results of a state election.
As for the topic I think it's a bit silly to assume this reform is all about winning this election - on a 2pp basis Labor is more popular against the Coalition than when they won the last election - Rudd as preferred PM is way in front of Abbott - so it's not about popularity IMO.
So from this [url="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national-health-deal-promises-more-beds-quicker-surgery/story-e6frf7jo-1225856160057"]linky thingy[/url] this is what we're "supposed" to get
- An extra 332 Victorian hospital beds from extra Commonwealth funding;
- Hundreds more elective surgery appointments thanks to $300million funding share for Victoria;
- More money from July with hospital bed numbers and staff numbers to increase soon after;
- Less waiting at emergency departments because of extra GP clinics and nurse practitioners to ease pressure;
- A share of 800 new national sub-acute beds in palliative care, geriatric and mental health care services; and,
- Hospital bed numbers will continue to increase with at the pace of rising health care costs through a share of $15billion funding.
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Well more money is good for health. Though I wonder where they are taking it from <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' /> Perhaps they will spend less on roof bats?? <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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Apparently you have to be very bad to not win a second term in the ferderal govt. It will be interesting to see if Rudd enters the "worst of all time" category. I think he will feel pretty upset! Poor guy!! Oh well, at least he gave it a shot <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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Have we entered the Twilight Zone with all this writing off of Kevin Ruddâ¼?
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Hahahaha. Well I reckon Rudd has made a few fatal errors lately. By giving up on the Carbon Trading he will basically be policy-less at the next election and so green voters will actually vote liberal (or for the greens). And it sounds like the broadband plan is doomed to failure with many commentators saying it was poorly conceived. And then there is the roof bats and the school stimulus overspend which will only get more negative coverage in coming weeks.
For Rudd to survive I think he would need to pull a rabbit out of his hat. But I don't believe he has any rabbits!
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There is the proposed amendment to cigarette packs for 2012.
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Yeah and the price is meant to go up a lot. I guess smokers might not vote for him! <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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29-04-2010, 07:53 PM
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[quote name='glen' post='26405' date='Apr 29 2010, 04:51 PM']Yeah and the price is meant to go up a lot. I guess smokers might not vote for him! <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />[/quote]
They're a dying breed...
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i can't see why they would be compensated for not being able to have a logo. though i guess they have some crazy lawyers who could dream up some claims just to annoy the government.
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Kevin Rudd is getting quite the media battering lately... when is the election due?
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Thanks, Peter. Well, that's still a little whiles away.
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I hope they do it sooner to get it over and done with <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':notworthy:' />
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04-05-2010, 02:41 PM
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Our (these days, not so much) beloved P.M. Kevin Rudd's authortarian nature is shinning through with his recent announcement that he makes no apologies for guiding policy toward, what he defines, as the national interest in opposition to popular (mostly uninformed/malformed) public opinion.
Meow Meow goes the pussie cat. <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
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That is how Howard lost the last election with Work Choices. Kevin is making the same mistakes. Good luck to Tony. I don't see how he could do any worse than Kevin.
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[quote name='glen' post='26557' date='May 5 2010, 10:01 AM']I don't see how he could do any worse than Kevin.[/quote]
I don't see how anybody could actually vote for Tony. Libs i can understand ...Tony, not so much. :-)
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