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Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 01-08-2017 LOL, yeah, Trump Workchoices the White House ig:  You wouldn't believe who the Tories in this Govt have in store for us if Turnbull gets turfed. Peter Fargin Dutton!  :gathering: :LMAO:  http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/what-do-we-really-know-about-peter-dutton-who-some-say-will-be-the-next-prime-minister/news-story/7f369bcc91b8e6c509eb2035dec9f388 Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 02-08-2017 Pyneing for the fjords :laugh: Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 02-08-2017 Heh Heh why in a thread about Electricity Bill are we not talking about Electricity Bill? :blink:  Maybe there's nothing good to say?  Demonstrated lack of interest in job creation, demonstrated interest in income redistribution. Demonstrated unawareness of just who are the job creators - small business - that's why he wants to tax them more.  Demonstrated interest in a republic - no jobs there! But there are opportunities to wedge the PM!  Frankly we are served pretty badly by our pollies - their interests appear to be at odds with the good of their electors.  Stand out example at present are the moves to reject government policy related to letting the voter decide moral issues. Regardless of the issue, there are fundamental anti democratic odours around this movement.  If the voter is not the final arbiter I don'rt want that role filled by superior self interested folks. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 02-08-2017 As you well know Aloy, the future of Electricity Bill revolves very much around the performance of the Govt.  Quote:If the voter is not the final arbiter I don'rt want that role filled by superior self interested folks. Nice one Aloy. Mind if I use that comment to grind an axe against independent departments cutting workers' wages?  :notworthy: Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 03-08-2017 Quote:As you well know Aloy, the future of Electricity Bill revolves very much around the performance of the Govt.  You are your own person PZ - you don't need my permission at all! :Hug:  In my point I reject the notion that large moral and ethical questions should be determined by party political tactics or massively self interested groups - of either side of an argument.  If the PM caves in to people with their own particular views and goes back on policy taken to a successful election then our democracy is undermined and I view that with alarm.  A clear (polled) majority of australians want to vote on the "Marriage" issue, no doubt many with strong views on either side, nonetheless many will not have strong views - but want to be consulted.  To deny this majority is undemocratic and should be rejected utterly.  I'm sure most folks looking for the greater good will agree.  A plebiscite cannot be questioned by the folks who voted against the successful stance - if they are democratically motivated.  That road leads to unity, the government deciding would be forever questioned and leads to disunity. - Whatever the outcome!!  Imagine if the conservative stance was successful - do you for one moment think that the "pro change" folks would accept the government decision and go quietly away?  And vice versa of course!! Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 03-08-2017 Quote:lets not forget how a seemingly impossible candidate like Trump was swept to power in the Whites Only House by virtue of dissatisfaction with the incumbents  A most excellent point my dear MY!!  And just look how well that election has been (not) respected by the establishment folks!!! Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 04-08-2017 Quote:i respect the election, i just dont agree with the result  That's fine too - but do you respect the decision? There is a difference too.  Vast swathes of comment are loaded toward not respecting the decision - or the folks that made it.  I believe that a plebiscite here on the marriage issue would be respected - if not agreed with.  That's called democracy.  CF the vote for the leadership of the ALP!!  The machine overruled the party members.  We see a similar ALP stance on the plebiscite. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 04-08-2017 Easy. Because the Liberal Party slashed feed in tariffs by more than 50%  The current Govt plans to restore them this year.  Anyway how much is his power bill compared to what it was before solar was fitted?  I don't have a solar system anymore.  I sold it years ago along with the unit where I installed it. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 04-08-2017 You wouldn't buy solar for the tariff rate. Not anymore anyway.  You would buy it for the lower GwH going through your meter. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 05-08-2017 Quote:i said i dont agree with the result, you (or anyone else ) who cant respect my view, cant then draw a long bow and say i dont respect the result  But I do respect your view, and just like you, I don't agree with it!!!  The difference is clear!  Falling in line implies agreeing with a particular decision - I don't say that at all _ I merely say that in a democracy we must respect the decision of the majority - it's fundamental to democracy - after all you may disagree with one issue and I may disagree with another, that is our right, but in a democracy we must respect the decision of the majority.  In Oz we change governments without violence and mass protests because we accept majority decisions. That's a whole lot more enlightened than those places where the same attitude does not apply.  I know you must agree with this - you are merely misinterpreting what I have said. That may be my fault - but hey I'm only human!!! Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 16-08-2017 Quote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/bill-shortens-retreat-into-leftist-fanaticism/news-story/9874767399d0a30fd846151e562e29b9 Calls for Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility to rule out loan to Adani after alleged fraud revealed  ADANI once claimed its mega mine in Queensland would lift millions of Indians out of poverty by providing them with cheap electricity but it has now been accused of ripping off citizens through a complex fraud. The controversial mining giant, which is trying to get a $1 billion taxpayer loan in Australia to help build its giant mine in Queenslandâs Galilee Basin, is being investigated in India for allegedly siphoning 15 billion rupee ($298 million). Details of the alleged fraud are contained in a Directorate of Revenue Intelligence file compiled in 2014 and published in <i>The Guardian</i> today. It sets out how Adani allegedly inflated invoices for an electricity project in India so it could shift huge amounts of money into offshore bank accounts. If true, this would have reduced taxes Adani paid and would likely have led to higher power prices for Indian consumers. Itâs believed the DRI has passed the allegations on to the Indian agency that investigates financial crimes, the Enforcement Directorate. But itâs unclear what the status of these investigations are. Adani has said the case is before the Adjudicating Authority. Last year, six Adani subsidiaries were among 40 other countries being investigated for allegedly inflating the price of coal imports in Indonesia to hide profits in overseas tax havens. Concern over Adaniâs dealings overseas, including illegal dealings, bribery, environmental and social devastation as well as allegations of corruption, fraud and money laundering has already been raised by Environmental Justice Australia in a report released in February.  http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/mining/calls-for-northern-australia-infrastructure-facility-to-rule-out-loan-to-adani-after-alleged-fraud-revealed/news-story/ec638e5300acea8f658ab779b6e7f530  Looks like Bill got it right ! Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 17-08-2017 Of course he's a populist, he forsakes the worker for the social media set, he has no real values whatever.  Of course he would call a loan to Adani improper - but a loan get's paid back - it's a very common thing to help get major projects underway.  Looks like Bill never gets anything right :dance:  PS what does this tell me about the quality of the above article:   "Last year, six Adani subsidiaries were among 40 other countries being investigated"   Adani companies are countries????   Right!! :Cry: Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 17-08-2017 Loans get paid back by corrupt companies? That's a new one.  Don't know about you but I don't want my taxes supporting an open cheque book for foreign companies under investigation for fraud. To do so would be rank stupidity.  So Bill Shorten's call for hurdles to be cleared for ALP support was obviously the sensible decision. Only an idiot with a ute-gate history wouldn't do it.  Seems to me Bill Shorten attracts a new breed of haters every time he gets something right.  That's fine. At least the country won't go broke in the process. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 17-08-2017 Let's have an early election and fix it then Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 17-08-2017 Too busy trying to save the Govt from becoming a minority you mean? Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 18-08-2017 I have trouble understanding how popularly elected representatives can be disenfranchised - surely that's the role of the electors? This is not a biased comment it applies across the board to Liberal, Green, National and soon to be outed ALP reps.  By disenfranchising a rep we are disenfranchising their constituents. Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 18-08-2017 They won't get that opportunity if we let the law of NZ overrule the people of Australia Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 13-09-2017 A Labor frontbencher is demanding the resignation of Employment Minister Michaelia Cash after it was revealed she knew the head of the building watchdog breached the Fair Work Act almost a year ago. <div>Key points:
 Australian Building and Construction Commission boss Nigel Hadgkiss resigned today after admitting to breaching the act over right to entry rules. In court it was revealed Mr Hadgkiss knew about material distributed by his organisation that suggested employers could make reasonable requests to stop union officials holding meetings in workplaces. But under changes to the laws, the employer no longer had that right and unions could meet workers in meal rooms for talks if needed. Unions reacted with fury to the admission. And when pressed in Question Time, the Employment Minister revealed she had known about the matter for some time. "I became aware of the behaviour in October 2016," Senator Cash said.  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-13/abcc-nigel-hadgkiss-resigns-over-breach-labor-pressures-cash/8942558  Yeah - get rid of this anti worker wailing banshee re dneck chick FFS Electricity Bill Has A Future! - Aloysius - 14-09-2017 "Yeah - get rid of this anti worker wailing banshee redneck chick FFS "  zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :Sleepy:  ALP propogandist!! :Loser:   Back on topic:  https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/37034616/voters-turning-away-from-shorten-poll/ Electricity Bill Has A Future! - POWERZONE - 14-09-2017 Quote:"Yeah - get rid of this anti worker wailing banshee r So you agree ? Michaelia Margaret Thatcher is everything that's bad about conservative politics in the 21st century that goes from attacking the underdog to attacking their own base from self induced insecurity and the born to rule mentality that underpins their DNA.  And you and your gurlfriend have been a perfect liberator of it  |