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#181 PZ.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 09:14 AM

Peter. What's the connection between your article and bias?

 

I don't have a problem with their salaries published and better rural coverage. Great idea.

 

As for impartiality... that law already exists. They are just rewording it. Means nothing.


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 09:21 AM

Seems that the bias is so obvious to most people that it needs the gov to create a special law!

 

 

Most people? Since when? Seems to me you just made that up.

 

36% think that the ABC is not biased either to the Left or the Right and 22% think it is biased to the Left. A very high 40% do not know if the ABC is biased in any direction.

Liberal/National voters are more likely to think the ABC is biased to the Left (42%). 61% of Greens voters and 48% of Labor voters think the ABC is not biased

http://www.essential...com.au/abc-bias

 

 

That special law you speak of already exists...

 

4 Impartiality and diversity of perspectives
Principles

The ABC has a statutory duty to ensure that the gathering and presentation of news and information is impartial according to the recognised standards of objective journalism.

Aiming to equip audiences to make up their own minds is consistent with the public service character of the ABC. A democratic society depends on diverse sources of reliable information and contending opinions. A broadcaster operating under statute with public funds is legitimately expected to contribute in ways that may differ from commercial media, which are free to be partial to private interests.

Judgements about whether impartiality was achieved in any given circumstances can vary among individuals according to their personal and subjective view of any given matter of contention. Acknowledging this fact of life does not change the ABC’s obligation to apply its impartiality standard as objectively as possible. In doing so, the ABC is guided by these hallmarks of impartiality:

• a balance that follows the weight of evidence;

• fair treatment;

• open-mindedness; and

• opportunities over time for principal relevant perspectives on matters of contention to be expressed.

The ABC aims to present, over time, content that addresses a broad range of subjects from a diversity of perspectives reflecting a diversity of experiences, presented in a diversity of ways from a diversity of sources, including content created by ABC staff, generated by audiences and commissioned or acquired from external content-makers.

Impartiality does not require that every perspective receives equal time, nor that every facet of every argument is presented.

Assessing the impartiality due in given circumstances requires consideration in context of all relevant factors including:

• the type, subject and nature of the content;

• the circumstances in which the content is made and presented;

• the likely audience expectations of the content;

• the degree to which the matter to which the content relates is contentious;

• the range of principal relevant perspectives on the matter of contention; and

• the timeframe within which it would be appropriate for the ABC to provide opportunities for the principal relevant perspectives to be expressed, having regard to the public importance of the matter of contention and the extent to which it is the subject of current debate.


Standards

4.1 Gather and present news and information with due impartiality.

4.2 Present a diversity of perspectives so that, over time, no significant strand of thought or belief within the community is knowingly excluded or disproportionately represented.

4.3 Do not state or imply that any perspective is the editorial opinion of the ABC. The ABC takes no editorial stance other than its commitment to fundamental democratic principles including the rule of law, freedom of speech and religion, parliamentary democracy and equality of opportunity.

4.4 Do not misrepresent any perspective.

4.5 Do not unduly favour one perspective over another.

 


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#183 PeterJMelb

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:18 PM

Hi Power.

"Peter. What's the connection between your article and bias?"
Doh!

"I don't have a problem with their salaries published and better rural coverage. Great idea."
Yes but only under threat.

"As for impartiality... that law already exists. They are just rewording it. Means nothing."
You simply pass off loads of stuff as:
"Means nothing."

So why is the gov contemplating a new law if the laws already exist?
I know you think the Lib gov is stupid, but that stupid? Doh!
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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:23 PM

Of course they're stupid. Doh!
 
Why else would they put up a law that already exists?
 
Doh!
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#185 PeterJMelb

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM

Let's what pans out.
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:26 AM

Peter. What's the connection between your article and bias?

 

I don't have a problem with their salaries published and better rural coverage. Great idea.

 

As for impartiality... that law already exists. They are just rewording it. Means nothing.

 

 

 

The Marriage Act also exists!!

 

Do we reject any changes to that too?


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#187 PZ.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:30 AM

 

 

 

The Marriage Act also exists!!

 

Do we reject any changes to that too?

 

Yeah, let's reject the unsolicited changes made to it in 2004 :rolleyes:


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#188 PeterJMelb

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:44 AM

Hi Hi Power.

Mr. A. Bolt is talking about leftist council Yarra killing Australia day and replacing it with Aborigine Smoking Day!!

HeraldSun-Thursday,17Aug2017-Page13.png

Don't you just love the man!
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#189 PZ.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 10:00 AM

I would've done if he left out the "leftist ABC" crap.

 

Just how is the ABC being "left" in this report?

 

This has been all over the media, including the ABC, and reported factually, with no bias!

 

http://www.abc.net.a...-powers/8813982


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#190 PeterJMelb

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 11:41 AM

Ah PZ you miss the irony of the squarker lamenting white man took it all!

The ABC keep telling us that they are un biased!
As my mum always said:
"Self praise is NO recommendation."
Apart from loyal you no one else thinks it is un biased.

And Trioli thinks she is Mother Terese. Yeah right.
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 12:09 PM

Ah PZ you miss the irony of the squarker lamenting white man took it all!

The ABC keep telling us that they are un biased!
As my mum always said:
"Self praise is NO recommendation."
Apart from loyal you no one else thinks it is un biased.

And Trioli thinks she is Mother Terese. Yeah right.


Just me and no one else huh? 

I couldn't care less about V. Trioli. But you seem to have a fascination for her.
 

36% think that the ABC is not biased either to the Left or the Right and 22% think it is biased to the Left.
A very high 40% do not know if the ABC is biased in any direction.

Liberal/National voters are more likely to think the ABC is biased to the Left (42%). 61% of Greens voters and 48% of Labor voters think the ABC is not biased

http://www.essential...com.au/abc-bias

 
Sorry mate but I don't subscribe to Master Bolt gullibility and the same goes for the minority 22% of people who think the ABC is biased to the left.
 
In other words, most people either don't think it's biased, don't know it's biased, or don't care.
 

Apart from loyal you no one else thinks it is un biased.

Yeah, right....

Now if I was to use your emotive language I would say that only you and Master Bolt are living in a some idyllic utopia ruled by right wing squawking white men lamenting in the pub about how the sun no longer shines out of Margaret Thatchers' backside because she snuffed it a few years ago.

 

Unbiased enough for you?


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 02:04 PM

Ah PZ relax man!
You take yourself far to seriously!
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 02:13 PM

Me?

 

I'm having fun Bro

 

How 'bout you? LOL


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:08 PM

Gosh PZ.
Hate to see your serious side!
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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

M-a-a-a-a-te.

 

It's harmless debate / fun on an internet website. Nothing more.

 

Ever tried playing chess without an opponent? LOL


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#196 PeterJMelb

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:46 PM

If I did try that, the non opponent would win!
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Posted Yesterday, 09:00 AM

 

Yeah, let's reject the unsolicited changes made to it in 2004 :rolleyes:

 

 

Let's cherry pick you say??

 

How even handed!!

 

Knight to p4


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Posted Yesterday, 09:37 AM

Let's cherry pick you say??

 

More like putting the cherry back wouldn't you say??

(Don't put a red herring in that comment FFS   :o )

 

How even handed!!

 

That's even more dubious... but yeah, put it back the way it was.

 

 

Knight to p4

 

Trust you to side with the white fella :rolleyes:

 

But OK, I'll play along... pawn to c6 :ph34r:


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Posted Yesterday, 12:28 PM

I guess the point is that just like the stupid brouhaha over the eligibliity of "dual citizenship" holders laws are not perfect and have to change with time for all sorts of reasons.

 

The folks that wrote our constitution were no doubt working in good faith - with the knowlege that they had - but that can never mean perfection for all time.

 

We once had a white Australia Policy - funnily enough generated by the ALP - I can't imagine that you would want to revert to that - so yes cherry picking is a fair comment.

 

Knight to p4 is racist??? :blink: 


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Posted Yesterday, 12:36 PM

Well, you went first right? White always goes first in chess :)

 

No I want to go back as far as the white Australia Policy to see fairness in the marriage debate.

 

Just repeal the 2004 policy that same way it was accented and then let the people decide after that.

 

But anyway the vote is on, I'm voting yes. Doesn't affect me or my lifestyle.

 

If it makes more people happy in this unhappy world of late then it's a bonus.

 

PS Knight to p4 is an illegal move...


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