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I better start by saying I LOVE MELBOURNE.
I have seen changes over the years and not always for the better. I don't like knocking things in my home town but there are things that could be improved. Would love to know your ideas.
The biggest for me is public transport. Some areas are well served eg Box Hill which has a the lot... train, bus, tram!
Areas like Balwyn are hopeless. Why is there no tram to Doncaster shopping town? The bus service is slow and unreliable. It is like living in a small country town. Doncaster road is dead.
To be fair our local member (lib) has been trying for years and fully supports it.
Oh and I think we need some good exciting tourist attractions. I am all for this. But why oh why did the powers that be think we need a multi million dollar ferris wheel with a stunningly uninteresting view, over priced and to top it off it doesmnt work! What a lemon!
Come on lets be original!
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I reckon Melbourne would be far better without the following:
Sports,
People.
I'm done.
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27-09-2010, 04:15 PM
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I strongly agree with your views on public transport and believe that it is Melbourne's biggest problem that is unique to Melbourne.
Melbourne would be better off without the large "minority" of materialistic and insecure yuppies and brainless rednecks/bogans!
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I strongly agree with your views on public transport and believe that it is Melbourne's biggest problem that is unique to Melbourne.
Melbourne would be better off without the large "minority" of materialistic and insecure yuppies and brainless rednecks/bogans!
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well said nwoexposer.
we went to st kilda yesterday and I commented on the yuppieness of the yuppys whom were yupping around.
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27-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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well said nwoexposer.
we went to st kilda yesterday and I commented on the yuppieness of the yuppys whom were yupping around.
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Lol. If you think St Kilda is bad, I've been to Hampton a few times (a friend of mine lives there, although he's not a yuppie) and that's trademark Yuppieville. I can't believe that people would pay a million dollars for an original two bedroom house just because it's close to the beach, drive around in their cars acting all pretentious and walking their poodles in a pretentious way. These are the types of people who are willing to pay more to rent a video, simply because they can! Living their life trying to please their yuppie friends, instead of being individuals!
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Lol. If you think St Kilda is bad, I've been to Hampton a few times (a friend of mine lives there, although he's not a yuppie) and that's trademark Yuppieville. I can't believe that people would pay a million dollars for an original two bedroom house just because it's close to the beach, drive around in their cars acting all pretentious and walking their poodles in a pretentious way. These are the types of people who are willing to pay more to rent a video, simply because they can! Living their life trying to please their yuppie friends, instead of being individuals!
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Yes, it's extremely lame, and the silly yuppie women who wear way too much makeup so they can take their dogs for a walk, very bizzare behaviour, we didn't really have yuppies in New Zealand where I'm from so am finding it interesting here. Were in Brighton the other day and saw many such peps.
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[quote name='johnbateman' timestamp='1285562439' post='30111']
Yes, it's extremely lame, and the silly yuppie women who wear way too much makeup so they can take their dogs for a walk, very bizzare behaviour, we didn't really have yuppies in New Zealand where I'm from so am finding it interesting here. Were in Brighton the other day and saw many such peps.
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Well some of them are extremely arrogant, especially around the city, and especially around 4pm - 5:30pm. Most don't bother me, but I find it difficult to associate with people with this extreme mentality. I think people are starting to snap out of it more but there's still a lot of them in Melbourne. Hampton is right next to Brighton.
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27-09-2010, 04:47 PM
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lol .. I must stop wearing my sunglasses on top of my head and using mobile while sipping coffee.
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29-09-2010, 05:47 AM
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Melbourne is a wonderful city but I must list its flaws:
1) Water fluoridation: It's NOT good for teeth. This is a lie by the media! Sodium fluoride poses many health risks and has been documented to have lowered one's IQ by 20 points from Chinese studies. There are many studies out there that prove that sodium fluoride is toxic. If sodium fluoride is so good for teeth, why the need to put it in the water anyway?! Sodium fluoride (the toxin that they put in the water as opposed to natural fluoride) causes many health problems! Please investigate for yourselves instead of calling me a kook (no offence intended, but this is important and real!)
2) Public transport: The biggest problem here is the contemptuous Victorian Government. They have shown time and time again that they have absolute disregard for the will of Victorians. But many governments have absolute disregard for the will of their people, so this isn't just limited to Victoria.
3) Safety: Even though Melbourne is a safe city by world standards, violent crime is rising. A large part of this is due to gun control, knife control and weapon control. Weapon control is a fraud because by banning weapons from law-biding citizens, only criminals have excess to weapons while law-biding citizens are left defenceless. We all want to be safe but weapon control is a FALSE solution that gives criminals a free ride.
4) Materialistic and insecure yuppies: Solution for you yuppies: Material possessions aren't everything! Increase your awareness. Start meditating to increase your awareness, BUT NOT DOING IT JUST TO SHOW OFF OR TO BRAG TO YOUR YUPPIE FRIENDS! Realize that there's more to life than buying $800 paintings for your Balaclava apartment just to brag to your yuppie friends! Realize and become aware to your insecurities and start being yourselves!
5) Rednecks/bogans: Get a life and start opening your minds! It's not cool to hate vegetarians, it's not cool to munch on Four n' Twenty pies (full of unhealthy and poor quality ingredients), it's not cool to get drunk at the football! Enough said, well actually no, four more words: GET A F****** LIFE!
I'm done. Obviously there's more things wrong with Melbourne but Melbourne is not a bad city by world standards.
You asked what's wrong with Melbourne and I've mentioned just that <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />.
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hi peter, you seem to have summed it up petty well.
i would also add that the price of housing which is very high and the government seems to have done nothing to help the situation. isn't accommodation a basic right of all people??
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30-09-2010, 09:03 PM
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I miss the old museum. I used to love the dioramas. I must be old!
Oh and getting a real pot of real tea. Not tea bags!!!
I guess that's all over the place though.
Hey is it true fluoride is not good for teeth? I never heard that one. I am not saying you are wrong but my dentist claims that since people started drinking bottled water there has been a decline in dental health. I'm confused.
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02-10-2010, 10:41 AM
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Well, actually I disagree with you....it needs more people...if you stop to think about good times you have had in your life and/or travels
you may realise that people are what makes a good time.
Australia is generally way way under populated, plus you need more black people..the last time I visited...I saw one black african young woman working in the supermarket.
One in six weeks.
I say lots more people for Melbourne ![[Image: gathering.gif]](http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/default/gathering.gif)
Australia is one of the most racist countries in the world
Aborogines & Native Indians are the worse treated people in the world.
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02-10-2010, 11:18 AM
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Anatasia what a wonderfully provocative gutsy post!
I love posts that get one thinking. I love being challenged.
I cannot make my mind up about our population levels. Keep posting its great to read challenging views.
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02-10-2010, 11:32 AM
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By the way exactly what is a yuppie?
My image of a yuppie is someone who is young, rich, successful and likes to flaunt it. I find them politically some what shallow.
So now we know New Zea land is a country without yuppies or unfortunately vowels.
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02-10-2010, 09:02 PM
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[quote name='glen' timestamp='1285774289' post='30158']
hi peter, you seem to have summed it up petty well.
i would also add that the price of housing which is very high and the government seems to have done nothing to help the situation. isn't accommodation a basic right of all people??
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I agree, especially with the high taxes in this country. The Victorian Department of Human Services is not doing sufficiently enough in supporting people who require housing as the waiting list for Government housing is ridiculously long, up to 10 years in some places.
Another problem I have with Melbourne is urban sprawl. People may want the population of Melbourne to rise but I strongly disagree with building too many new suburbs on the suburban outskirts. The quality of life for the newcomers to these new suburbs would be a lot different to those who live in inner-Melbourne or even in the middle suburbs (i.e. Glen Waverley, Oakleigh, etc.). Lack of public transport options, lack of options in terms of restaurants and cafes, longer trips having to made by car are just some of the drawbacks.
Living in these new outer suburbs are just too different to living in say Fitzroy, Carlton, etc. And I don't like this. People should feel like they're actually living in Melbourne or are at least a part of it, especially with how much people have to presently fork out for housing, even in the outer suburbs.
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03-10-2010, 04:42 AM
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[quote name='Anastasia' timestamp='1285972875' post='30230']
Well, actually I disagree with you....it needs more people...if you stop to think about good times you have had in your life and/or travels
you may realise that people are what makes a good time.
Australia is generally way way under populated, plus you need more black people..the last time I visited...I saw one black african young woman working in the supermarket.
One in six weeks.
I say lots more people for Melbourne
Australia is one of the most racist countries in the world
Aborogines & Native Indians are the worse treated people in the world.
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well i only know about 0.0000000001% of the people in melbourne so i don't think my life would be enriched by a larger population!!! clearly your views are not one of an environmentalist! also i disagree about the racist remarks. i think mebourne is a very tolerant community in the main.
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03-10-2010, 11:40 PM
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It's obvious that in my previous post, most of the problems I listed aren't just limited to Melbourne.
I think we can all agree that the real unique problems with Melbourne are: public transport, urban sprawl... that's pretty much it.
When it comes to my hardships of living in Melbourne, those two are certainly the biggest issues that I have to deal with. It effects my lifestyle, knowing that to engage in fun activities, I must endure travelling for further distances. Even if I drive, it would still take at least 45 minutes to get to the city, and my area is no longer cheap, especially if you add costs other than housing and rent.
I'd like to think that Melbourne people are generally tolerant as well. I still don't understand the majority of Melbourne people, but I don't see racism as a major problem, it seems that a lot of the thugs target anyone, regardless of race.
I don't know if any other outer suburbanites have the same problem but... it just feels like living in the outer suburbs is like living in a different city sometimes, like you're not part of Melbourne. A different environment about the two places. I find it a nuisance and often feel like I don't belong. Seems like Melbourne is a smaller version of Chicago in this sense <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />.
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04-10-2010, 02:47 AM
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hey guys, as many of you will know, i am currently on holidays in china in a city called chengdu.
over here they have quite high density living (totally the opposite of the urban sprawl of melbourne). as a result, public transport is quite good. and it is very cheap too. most buses cost 2 rmb for a one way trip. which is about 30 cents AUS. and a bus seems to come every minute or so. they also recently built a new metro underground rail system recently and that also costs 2rmb. it has an excellent ticketing system where you get a smart card but when you leave the train station the card gets sucked into a machine for reuse.
it made me ashamed of the dreaded melbourne myki ticketing system which has wasted so much money it is not funny.
i was also surprised by the honesty of people over here with public transport. if they happened to get on at the back of the bus (and it might be a fairly crowded bus) they would pass the money up the front so that it could be given to the driver. each person would pass the money to the person next to them and so on until it reached the money box at the front of the bus. i found this most impressive.
cheers, glen
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[quote name='nwoexposer' timestamp='1286106016' post='30273']
It's obvious that in my previous post, most of the problems I listed aren't just limited to Melbourne.
I think we can all agree that the real unique problems with Melbourne are: public transport, urban sprawl... that's pretty much it.
When it comes to my hardships of living in Melbourne, those two are certainly the biggest issues that I have to deal with. It effects my lifestyle, knowing that to engage in fun activities, I must endure travelling for further distances. Even if I drive, it would still take at least 45 minutes to get to the city, and my area is no longer cheap, especially if you add costs other than housing and rent.
I'd like to think that Melbourne people are generally tolerant as well. I still don't understand the majority of Melbourne people, but I don't see racism as a major problem, it seems that a lot of the thugs target anyone, regardless of race.
I don't know if any other outer suburbanites have the same problem but... it just feels like living in the outer suburbs is like living in a different city sometimes, like you're not part of Melbourne. A different environment about the two places. I find it a nuisance and often feel like I don't belong. Seems like Melbourne is a smaller version of Chicago in this sense <img src='http://www.melbournechat.org/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />.
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Would love to hear replies to the above post.
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