Well Done Conservatives

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You just don't get it do you?

On the contrary, I reckon my sex life is better than yours :Sleepy:

I've been doing weekend work since the days of the Fraser Govt. Some with penalty rates, some without, some voluntary.

I reckon I know a fair bit about it mate
 

If an employer wants people to work on a Sunday - say and no one wants to do it for the money they offer - they don't get workers on Sunday.
 
If they offer you more then you may reconsider your rejection of their offer.

Yeah you might. The offer might include penalty rates

What happens when that worker is permanently rostered on Sundays? IR law changes, no penalty rates, massive pay cut, take it or leave it.

That's what happened last time.
 

I worked for years in a shift environment with 24/7 coverage.
 
That mean't I got paid the same rate regardless of nite, day, Saturday, Christmas day, etc.
 
But I was happy because I was paid a very significant salary, whether I was sick or well, on holiday or not.
 
If I had been asked to work on an award with penalty rates my take home pay woud have been some 30% lower.
 
Hello why would I want to do that?

That has nothing to do with anything. So you went from wage to salary. Who cares? Anyone could do that even today if their employer offers it.

What's this got to do with penalty rates in the IR system?

If anything you're actually agreeing with me when I say penalty rates aren't adding to unemployment.
 

Penalty rates are an obsolete system for paying more than the normal hourly rate to reflect onerous conditions - OK - but if you are paid way more than an award would give including penalty rates - why would you be interested?

What if you aren't paid more than an award including penalty rates? What if you lose out? Like all those workers that lost out under workchoices?

This is the bit you don't get mate. You seem to think that workers who lose penalty rates are somehow going to be better off. Nope. It didn't happen that way.

It's the above reason why the voters don't agree that penalty rates are obsolete. They are a compensation for working unsociable hours.