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#381 mello yello

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:35 PM

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#382 PZ.

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:15 AM

Amazing - yet another couple of instances of absolute inability to see any fault in Union leadership - but it's fact and it's out there.

 

Your clear subscription to the notion that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" notion is noted and points to a clear class struggle mentality where none exists or needs exist -

Continual dwindling of non government employment unionised workers numbers says that people have already voted with their feet to dismiss your position.

In the real world folks act through self interest and the majority just don't agree with your defence of Union Leadership.

 

It all comes down to relevance mate.  Union leadership issues are small beer compared to wage theft which is a global practice and has been for a decade or more. Continual dwindling of unionised workers = continual proven cases of workers being ripped off illegally by their employers. Your viewpoint of defending / deflecting employee theft by attacking unions is not shared by folks in the real world or even the law.

 

Of course it's a clear class struggle - it's a struggle between criminals who owe money and victims who are owed it.

 

I don't know any law abiding citizen apart from yourself that thinks that's a good thing.

 

mmmmmmm > https://youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?t=124 


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#383 Aloysius

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 07:37 AM

 

It all comes down to relevance mate.  Union leadership issues are small beer compared to wage theft which is a global practice and has been for a decade or more. Continual dwindling of unionised workers = continual proven cases of workers being ripped off illegally by their employers. Your viewpoint of defending / deflecting employee theft by attacking unions is not shared by folks in the real world or even the law.

 

Of course it's a clear class struggle - it's a struggle between criminals who owe money and victims who are owed it.

 

I don't know any law abiding citizen apart from yourself that thinks that's a good thing.

 

mmmmmmm > https://youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?t=124 

 

 

Your interpretation of my post is somewhat flawed 

 

Not liking white does not mean liking black - if you get the idea!!

 

On the other hand your consistent refusal to accept any criticism of bad Union leadership is somewhat revealing - it exists and should be recognised.

 

The notion that some folks (employers) are all bad and that other gfolks ( Union Leaders) are all good is to say the least disingenuous.

 

Proven cases there are indeed of employer ripoffs - similarly there are significant proven cases of Union Leader crime - often against there own membership.

 

I'm an absolute supporter of the membership - just wish all leaders behaved as though they supported them too.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 12:48 PM

"The notion that some folks (employers) are all bad and that other folks ( Union Leaders) are all good is to say the least disingenuous."

 

Of course it is. Who is making this notion? Not me.

 

I said union leadership issues are small beer compared to wage theft which is a global practice.

 

Small beer doesn't mean I'm claiming the glass is empty :beer:

 

Employer ripoffs are more dangerous because there's more of it and it's harder to detect :fishie: :fishie:

 

Another case reported just two days ago > https://www.sbs.com....-work-ombudsman


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