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#681 Aloysius

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

Heh, heh, not happy that a million jobs have been created??

Rather talk about inconsequential opinion polls?

 

Wanna discuss the underwhelming  support for BS??

 

See any cracks in the ALP with that sharp eye of yours PZ??

 

Aaaaaaaaah :dance:  :dance:  :Cowboy:


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:25 PM

Plenty of cracks in the ALP - but they ain't in Govt :)

 

A million jobs created... If you say that nice and fast it's inconsequential.

 

Just how did the Govt create those jobs? And how many were lost?

 

 

 

Speaking of BS... the Acting Prime Minister has just said the Govt will pay off its debt in three years...

 

..... all $500 billion of it.

 

http://www.news.com....2ca7f041b1c09a5

 

Almost as dubious as creating a million jobs :Four: :Four:


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 06:58 AM

Ok so let's disappear these million jobs and then find out if the folks that have them share your bilious view.

 

The economy that created this huge increase in employment is one economy you can't just pick and choose what is good or bad - actually I would have thought that some one who professes such caring for us workers might have ben pretty happy about a good result - go figure! :Hug:


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 07:24 AM

Better still let's disappear just those jobs created by the fed Govt as claimed.
 
Let's see........... still a million jobs?
 
 
Guess what mate? There were a million jobs created under Labor from 2007 to 2012 despite the GFC.
 
Didn't see you waiving the jobs flag then - quite the opposite.

 

Maybe you were too obsessed with inconsequential polls at the time. LOL
 
Is that bilious enough for you? :officechair:


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 03:17 PM

When Labor wins next election, Big Mal Turncoat will resign and tell BS "Job done."
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Posted 20 April 2018 - 11:18 AM

Better still let's disappear just those jobs created by the fed Govt as claimed.
 
Let's see........... still a million jobs?
 
 
Guess what mate? There were a million jobs created under Labor from 2007 to 2012 despite the GFC.
 
Didn't see you waiving the jobs flag then - quite the opposite.

 

Maybe you were too obsessed with inconsequential polls at the time. LOL
 
Is that bilious enough for you? :officechair:

 

http://theconversati...ince-2006-53372

 

"Josh Frydenberg was right. Employment growth in 2015 was the strongest of any calendar year since 2006"

 

Guess who the PM was in 2006!!!

 

 

Be happy for your fellow australian workers !!!!


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 02:26 PM

LOL! Were you unhappy in the intervening ten years?

 

Look at the jobs growth in Dec 2013 when Tony Abbott was PM.

 

Must be close to the lowest on record!!!

 

I will be happy for my fellow Australian workers when they get their penalty rates back.

 

Let's have an early election :)


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Posted 10 May 2018 - 04:05 PM

Penalty rates schmenalty rates,

You can only spend money.


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:51 AM

Penalty rates is money. Not a token. Not a gift voucher. Not a frequent flyer point. It's money.

You can't spend money if you don't have enough to spend with.

If you loose penalty rates you loose money.

A no brainer really.
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 08:27 AM

Penalty rates is money. Not a token. Not a gift voucher. Not a frequent flyer point. It's money.

You can't spend money if you don't have enough to spend with.

If you loose penalty rates you loose money.

A no brainer really.

 

 

Penalty rates are not money - money is money - a true no brainer there :Hug:

 

Try buying anything anywhere any time with a penalty rate - let's know how you go!!

 

A salary may very well give you more than a wage with added penalty rates so what's the big deal?  Reluctance to leave the old system behind?

 

A salary paid to someone who typically works on weekends or at night would have to make it worthwhile to the potential worker to work different hours to the normal 8 hour five week day worker.

 

Another no brainer :Hug:

 

PS PZ - loose money is easily lost


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 09:56 AM

Yeah - plenty of loose money in the retail industry mate Shame%20On%20You.gif

Here, I'll make it easy for you. The Fairwork commission have ordered employers who underpaid penalty rates to repay the lost money to their workers. So penalty rates is money no matter how many hairs are split.
 
Salary? What salary? Are you erroneously assuming that retail and hospitality workers are somehow going to be better off with lost penalty rates because a more generous salary might be an available substitute????
 
Well for a start, what happens if they are part time? How do you pay a part timer a salary?
You don't. They will always be on wages. So once the penalty rates are less their income will be less.
 
Less income = less money. Exactly what their employers want. Especially the ones that underpay their workers.
 
And you reckon they'll be better off without penalty rates? That's tooth fairy stuff mate.
 
I spent more than a decade as a salary earner in the retail industry.
 
To put it kindly.... the money was farked. I was earning less than a forkie on wages and I was doing 60hr weeks.
 
That WAS the old system... from the 19th century. Fark - and you want me to go back to it?
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Posted 12 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

"To put it kindly.... the money was farked. I was earning less than a forkie on wages and I was doing 60hr weeks.
 
That WAS the old system... from the 19th century. Fark - and you want me to go back to it? "

 

So you left - right?

 

That's the point - pay peanuts - get monkeys.

 

I want people to be paid what they are worth, not what some shonk can get away with.

 

Shonks - be they employers or bludging workers are a fact of life - our problem is not having to deal with them.

 

That is not impossible.

 

If you believe that workers are the value adders they should be prized and sought after and paid appropriately.

 

A mobile work force is one that can let shonky employers get what they deserve - low productivity, low profit.

 

End of rant - we basically agree about a well rewarded productive workforce - we just get hung up on the mechanics of the reward system. 

 

Meanwhile Bill wants less tax and more handouts - does not compute.


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:01 PM

Aloy, when all is said and done, the reward system will always be set by community expectations. The vast majority of the community believe that some days have more value than others and weekends will always be days that are valued the most.

 

The fact that there are shonky employers out there will only reinforce that view.

 

To be honest with you - I reckon this Govt could win the election if they went on board with the workers on penalty rates. It's the only thing really stopping me from voting for them.

 

Their recent performance has actually been quite good. Even the budget was fair and balanced IMO.

 

 

As for tax, well Bill actually wants more tax than the Govt. Think neg gearing, super and franking credits.


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Posted 28 May 2018 - 03:22 PM

https://www.smh.com....526-p4zhp5.html

 

At $528,000 a year, Turnbull's pay is highest of any leader in OECD

 

As I understand it Mr Turnbull donates his salary to charity!


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