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#221 PZ.

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Posted 31 August 2017 - 01:00 PM

If they sack their own people for getting legally married their days will be numbered I'm afraid :)


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 04:43 PM

Ha!
Hey PZ!
The Catholic Church has survived huge upheavals over twenty centuries!
Think Henry VIII for starters, he killed off just about every Catholic in England who did not kneel to him.
Or even being feed to the Colosseum lions.
SSM in Aus is a meer hiccup in a teacup, no hardly even a thimble.
No postal vote in small fish-land will make the slightest difference. (To the Catholic Church)
Doh!
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Posted 31 August 2017 - 04:51 PM

And guess what happened over that twenty centuries Peter... they changed.. adapted.
 
Why stop now? It won't be long before they welcome SSM couples with open arms.
 
In fact, they're already doing it.
 

High ranking members of Christian churches across Perth have gathered to show their support for same-sex marriage.

Hosted by Anglican Dean Richard Pengelley at the lofty St George's Cathedral, the group launched Australian Christians for Marriage Equality, a national campaign of committed and ordained Christians supporting a 'yes' vote in the upcoming postal vote.

 

"Primarily it's about making Australia a fairer and more just society," the dean said.
"This will strengthen Australian society not weaken it."

Dean Pengelley, who recently revealed he is father to an adult child who is gay, said among his priests were those both willing and unwilling to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies.
"And that's okay, that's religious freedom," he said.

Speakers from the Anglican, Uniting Church, Church of Christ and Quaker faiths addressed the crowd of about 40 fellow Christians. Quaker elder Brenda Roy held back tears as she spoke of wanting her grandchildren to grow up without having to "justify their family or worry about how they talk about it."
Maverick Anglican rector Father Chris Bedding, who organised the event, said about 66 per cent of polled Catholics were planning to vote yes.

 

Lay Catholic and federal Labor member Matt Keogh told the crowd, "no religion or church should ever dictate to the community ... fundamental to everything we believe is love, and that's why marriage equality should become a reality in Australia."

He denied a 'yes' vote would force churches to perform same-same marriage ceremonies.
"Churches will still be able to determine who they do and don't marry in the church."
"Knowing that Catholics and other Christians should feel very free to vote in support of marriage equality."

 

http://www.news.com....519d1717746c5e3

 

Good on them I say.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 06:16 PM

Same-sex marriage: The No campaign's first television ad is smart marketing that will reach families

 

http://www.abc.net.a...ll-work/8856722

 

Oh dear.... and here we were thinking the ABC was biased towards the YES vote :ras:


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#225 PeterJMelb

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:01 AM

So the ABC is now non biased.
Proves that the campaign to make it unbiased was true and worthwhile.
Good on the elite ABC for bowing to the people who pay them.
However just as the leopard cannot change it's spots the arslose at the ABC cannot change their hatered of the plebs.

As I said the Catholic Church will take zilch from a piddly postal vote downunder, the Pope quakes, ha!

An Anglican Dean in WA!
Archbishop Hart (the man in Aus for Catholics) clearly stated the Catholic Church position SSConection.
No once did he tell me how to vote.
Even if he did almost all Catholics would vote how they see the matter.

The SSConnectors still don't see the problem, we the great unwashed and married don't give a fukc who fukcs whom in their own space.
Just leave the word Marriage as it has always been, a sacrament binding a man and a woman in holy matrimony.
That's what the Catholic Church is defending, what other Christian Churches do, well as I said before I doan give a fukc.

See all Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.
See all the non Catholic Churches split from the Catholic Church because they did not like some item ir other, so now any one else who wants to see SSM, they are free to split and give themselves a new name, it won't be Catholic.
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 11:26 AM

No it definitely won't be Catholic. It'll be more open and integral to the community. And more accepted.

 

They'll have to be in this rapidly changing world - otherwise it'll be finished in three generations.

 

And the ABC is non biased and always has been. I've never been a campaign to make it otherwise.

 

I've seen plenty of hatred / disdain from right whingers but they don't count because they hate the universe anyway.


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#227 PeterJMelb

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 12:24 PM

Hi Power.

Ha!
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Posted 01 September 2017 - 12:26 PM

Ho ho ho

 

(O sheet, can't say that anymore can we?)

 

LOL


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#229 PeterJMelb

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 06:08 PM

Ah PZ.

What do you know?
I have no more that I wish to discuss with anyone.

I have said it all and stated my case eloquently.
No need to repeat my beliefs and opinions.

Er BTW one does not need to be a Catholic to be a NO voter.
I think if I tried real hard I could find at least one athiest who will vote NO.

Well I just checked the house that I am living in and "low and be old" there are 2 athiest NO voters.
Gosh what bad bastadrs! I wonder what the soi–disant leader of the YES makes of them, please tell me.

On the other hand no need.

Tuned out.
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Posted 02 September 2017 - 04:21 AM

Peter, why would I want to convert anyone to a YES vote?

 

I'm not here to tell anyone how to vote.

 

You don't have to be a non Catholic to be a YES or NO voter either.

 

In fact, you don't have to be anyone to do anything.

 

It's freedom of choice.

 

It's one of the reasons why I'm voting YES.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 05:12 PM

Hi PZ.
All good with that.
My nose tellls my this will be a close vote.
My prediction is for a narrow NO win.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:24 AM

May the best..... individual win ;)


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 07:30 AM

That's all very supportable - unfortunately the rabid "Yes"  folks have among them  in high places a number of folks who do not share your support of free speech - No to a voter plebiscite, No to a postal Survey, bullying of QANTAS board members ........

 

Like I say I support your positions on freedom to choose - but there are many who do not - including the Greens and the ALP.

 

For me freedom to choose is more important than any petty messing about with marriage acts, or the citizenship of our elected representative.

 

It's a pity that these elected folks don't actually support the rights of those that  voted for them. 


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 01:48 PM

Excellent example of freespeech prohibition from Getup today.
Getup partly funded by ALP via Bill Shorten.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:23 AM

It's gone full circle hasn't it?

 

Back in my day, intolerance of others deemed "different" were dealt with using far more violent measures than GetUp campaigns.

 

Now the boot's on the other foot.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:03 AM

And it's still a boot and they don't mind sticking it in.

 

Just because the boot is on anothers foot doesn't make it even slightly tolerant!!!

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-04/the-gay-couple-who-oppose-same-sex-marriage/8871118

 

Heh Heh - a gay couple of long standing are labelled "homophobic"

 

"This week the High Court will hear two challenges from the Yes campaign against the Government's $122 million postal survey."

 

 

No Non No - more objection to ordinary folks with a different view expressing their support or otherwise - what does this say about those objecting?

 

Freedom for us - but not you!!!! 


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Posted 06 September 2017 - 05:54 PM

Hi Aloy...

Or as the soup man said:

"No vote for you, plebs."
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